Citizen Journalist Gets Deported from China

August 11th, 2008 View Comments

Crazy story but maybe not THAT crazy. I found out this weekend that a friend, was deported from China after filming protests in Tianamen Square. Noneck Noel was deported after filming this video:

Apparently, Chinese officials didn’t take too kindly to a non-credentialed reporter filming a protest (not exactly a news flash). Now, I don’t have the whole story, just a series of tweets from Noneck and some quick googling, but this whole thing seems pretty silly of the Chinese. As far as I can tell, the video lasts for about 10 minutes, shows a small group of protesters, a tiny crowd of disinterested onlookers, and has gotten more than 35,000 views since it was first posted. Presumably most of the views were after the deportation was made public on the blogosphere.

I wonder what would have happened if the Chinese had done what the U.S. government does with stuff like this – ignore it. The whole thing about freedom of speech is that you’ve got to decide what to ignore and what to listen to (signal vs. noise and all that). IMHO this protest was something the Chinese could easily have ignored without consequence. It’s not like the world decision makers don’t already know that college students, Tibetians, and the Beastie Boys don’t like the occupation of Tibet. Instead they went and forcefully removed these folk from their country, and in doing so caused a commotion. With all the care the Chinese have put into putting their best face forward for the Olympics, I just wish they had paid more attention to the heart of the issue many folks have with China. I don’t think anyone cares whether or not some people spit in the street, serve the occasional dog, or even have political relationships with countries un-friendly to the U.S. What people do care about is freedom of speech, human rights, and visibility into government. Two out of three were shown to be less than stellar in the video and it’s aftermath.

I will say this for the Chinese and in opposition to many of the protesters. The Chinese really have come a long long way in a very short period of time. Consider that a friend of mine grew up in Beijing w/out running water, that only a few years ago those protesters would have been jailed w/out the obligatory phone call or trip home, and it’s plain ol’ amazing that that video even made it to the interwebs. In the grand scheme that actually is progress in my book.

Oh yea on the topic of Tibet – it’s damn complicated. A hell of a lot more complicated than most people realize with likely 1000 years of history behind it. It’s a little presumptuous of us to jump into the middle of it just because we happen to like this Dalai Lama. Last time anyone tried to leave the Union that is the United States of America, it was a helluva lot bloodier than anything the Chinese have done recently. We need to be very very careful about being hypocrites.

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  • fhwang

    Yeah, China's made progress in the last few decades, there's no doubt. Still, I'm finding the whole thing about the Olympics too depressing to bear. I'm not much of a sports fan regardless but I don't know if I'll watch any of it at all this year.

    And as for Tibet & the U.S. Civil War — there's no question that repressing minorities to build a nation was easier a few centuries. Though actually a better analogy would be the way we (as a U.S. citizen I'll say “we” here) committed genocide against Native Americans because they didn't fit into our picture of manifest destiny. The Civil War has the complicating factor of all those slaves. Whether Lincoln got into the war to free the slaves, that was a side-effect at least.

  • http://www.kungpowthinking.com joshviney

    I love sports, and I guess I'm an idealist when it comes to the Olympics. To me it's all about people coming together from all around the world despite political differences to compete peacefully as human beings. I think it's a travesty for anyone to use the Olympics for political means. This includes boycotts, protests, and Russia using them as a distraction to invade Georgia. I will say it really bothered me that the politicians couldn't get their heads out of their asses long enough to allow the Koreans to march into the opening ceremony together. Now that was depressing.

  • fhwang

    Yeah, I admire the athletes, and the spirit of athletics, and I can understand how other people are able to be excited about the competition.

    But as for using the Olympics for political means: That's what China's doing too, so it can show the world how modern it is — all Olympic hosts do that. But there should be a line, right? I don't think it was a good idea to have the Olympics in Nazi Germany, for example. I would've been opposed to having the Olympics in the U.S.S.R. during the Stalinist purges, or in South Africa during apartheid, or in Zimbabwe right now. As for whether China is over that line, hard to say. But I think of Falun Gong and Tiananmen Square and the great firewall of China and Tibet and Taiwan and the one-child policy and the child-slavery factory they uncovered last year, and, yeah, I get depressed about it.

    As for the Korean thing, yeah, it's depressing, but you know, not any more depressing than the entire North Korea situation anyway. Politics is going to intrude on the rest of life, whether or not you want it to.

  • http://fhwang.net/ Francis Hwang

    Yeah, I admire the athletes, and the spirit of athletics, and I can understand how other people are able to be excited about the competition.

    But as for using the Olympics for political means: That's what China's doing too, so it can show the world how modern it is — all Olympic hosts do that. But there should be a line, right? I don't think it was a good idea to have the Olympics in Nazi Germany, for example. I would've been opposed to having the Olympics in the U.S.S.R. during the Stalinist purges, or in South Africa during apartheid, or in Zimbabwe right now. As for whether China is over that line, hard to say. But I think of Falun Gong and Tiananmen Square and the great firewall of China and Tibet and Taiwan and the one-child policy and the child-slavery factory they uncovered last year, and, yeah, I get depressed about it.

    As for the Korean thing, yeah, it's depressing, but you know, not any more depressing than the entire North Korea situation anyway. Politics is going to intrude on the rest of life, whether or not you want it to.

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